You Sure Won’t it be decided by you?
I’m sure it won’t be made by me. I’m not going to push this thing. I’m putting more reasonable pressure, Hey, you change the way you make steel. Let’s get cheap, green hydrogen. I’ve done a few million in geoengineering and overall I’ve done বিল 2 billion done I get a hundred times less in battery companies than in geotechnical. I financed Open source green energy model. I have given funds Centrifugal coupling. At the Paris climate event, there was only one person pushing the research and development agenda for political leaders. It is strange to me how quickly this whole climate field develops to understand what needs to be done.
It seems to me that the understanding is enough, but the planet is telling us the action is late.
It’s about 20 years late in a certain sense. I only saw it through the lens of what I saw in Africa, how agriculture is being hampered there and somehow thinking, do we really have to deal with this complex barrier of climate change? I was very lucky that people brought me up to speed.
At one point in the book you note that you yourself use an “irrational” power. I assume you have traveled much less this year. Considering your climate activism, will it continue even after the epidemic is over?
Of course I hope that in the future my international travel will be about half of what it was in the past. For example, African leaders now have “block video calls” blocked on everyone’s calendar. For those I met with these two leaders, instead of getting up once every two years and sitting and waiting and having an hour-long meeting, I could have a 20-minute meeting together with translation and get everything we needed. So the ability to work with African leaders in terms of their time and my time was 10 times better this year than before. I’m not going back to it, and I think there’s a lot like it.
Our struggles over things like travel make us afraid for our lives. We change our behavior. You should be optimistic about it.
Rich countries do a little less so you get to zero but that’s not it. The acid test is whether India will use the green system in 2050. They will use more electricity, and they will install air conditioning, and they will provide basic shelter, and when we call them in 2050 and say, Use the green approach with current technology, They used to say, Hey, send us that trillion dollars because you’re rich – you caused this problem, and we need to provide our people with very basic needs.. So, no, we’re not going to get out of that way. If all the rich countries go to zero, it doesn’t matter. The idea of nationally defined contributions does not lead you to zero.
Here is a cowardly question. The last time we talked, you said you were funding production facilities before vaccines were approved, so we’ll have enough when they get the green light. But we didn’t think enough. What happened?
Well, no one said they knew how to make 14 billion vaccines overnight. The serum factory that makes AstraZeneca makes it more than any other factory in the world with the funds we provide. We are getting smaller in terms of vaccine equity. Pfizer and Modarna, which are not that much scalable and fairly expensive, are great solutions for rich countries. But it is a new process that cannot be completed any time soon in any developing country. We have done more work in the mRNA space than any single company. But it was not ready. There was not a single approved vaccine using this technology. If the epidemic comes five years later, MRNA could be a stable platform in terms of cost, duration, production capacity. But hey, I spent ২ 2 billion and I know if I didn’t spend it the inequality would get worse.